tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8405751930008874982.post4914913454153247378..comments2023-03-25T06:33:57.108-07:00Comments on MH370 What Happened That Night: MH370: An Important Change in Protocol—A Clue?Edward Bakerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14170296426640505173noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8405751930008874982.post-48906218504599759822016-09-02T03:06:05.580-07:002016-09-02T03:06:05.580-07:00The pilots wife is convinced her husband is not th...The pilots wife is convinced her husband is not the one that made the last transmission. Assuming Blaine Gibson research is correct and adding the original claim that the Freescale secrets are the reason for the disappearance. The last sighting of the plane over the Maldives is where the perpetrators parachuted from the plane with the laptop hard drives. The people that made up the false claim that the plane over Maldives was a propeller flight might also be involved? How they took over the flight is interesting. Maybe they had previously hypnotized the Captain? Their technicall knowledge seems enormous. They might have substituted components in the satellite system to give a fake location.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02625203551068947259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8405751930008874982.post-84777384093282434292016-06-18T16:00:54.837-07:002016-06-18T16:00:54.837-07:00A further assertion that Malaysia's military r...A further assertion that Malaysia's military radar saw MH370 pass by Penang has often been asserted but the Malaysian Government refuses to produce radar data evidence to corroborate it. <br /><br />On the other hand at the groundspeed asserted by Malaysia's FI Report of 594 knots, MH370 would have to be flying at an altitude where both radar at Hat Yai & Lhokseumwae would have seen it, but neither did. <br /><br />Unless Malaysia steps up and proves the allegation with real data, it can be dismissed along with Najib's claim in a Press Conference on 14 March 2014 that military radar also spotted MH370 climb to 45,000ft for 23 minutes. Simon Gunsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05958457043789274885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8405751930008874982.post-69616137750296280122016-06-18T15:47:43.297-07:002016-06-18T15:47:43.297-07:00Malaysian Military radar did not see MH370 make a ...Malaysian Military radar did not see MH370 make a hard left turn at IGARI. This was disproven by two Thales Raytheon radar engineers employed by the JACC to review all the radar data. (Angus Houston Interview 24 June 2014, Malaysian Chronicle) It has since become a mythical assertion by those who are careless with the truth.Simon Gunsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05958457043789274885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8405751930008874982.post-55155178405721138922016-06-12T17:06:23.959-07:002016-06-12T17:06:23.959-07:00Another reason to make the extra radio is to effec...Another reason to make the extra radio is to effectively report "back on" when the pilot has been distracted. As much as I try to always keep radio vigilance, occasionally I have doubts about whether I heard every call, so I'll throw in an extra radio call just in case. Could the MH370 flight crew have been temporarily distracted with and then made the radio call? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15590918890933130054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8405751930008874982.post-44275257744038664672016-06-09T22:21:52.518-07:002016-06-09T22:21:52.518-07:00sir,
is it possible to remotely hijack the plane ...sir,<br /><br />is it possible to remotely hijack the plane ?Aaluvakkaranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16906764666555501474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8405751930008874982.post-89106417811356967752016-06-09T15:14:56.362-07:002016-06-09T15:14:56.362-07:00On the pilot's motivation for ditching the pla...On the pilot's motivation for ditching the plane: He was an Islamist with several things to be upset about:<br />http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2581817/Doomed-airliner-pilot-political-fanatic-Hours-taking-control-flight-MH370-attended-trial-jailed-opposition-leader-sodomite.htmlRob Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17305006079770548160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8405751930008874982.post-57416776705561798642016-06-09T12:58:12.432-07:002016-06-09T12:58:12.432-07:00No need to strangle or chloroform co-pilot. If co-...No need to strangle or chloroform co-pilot. If co-pilot leaves the cockpit to get tea for Z (as suggested or for any other reasonable request), Z can dump the air in the plane very quickly. Crew not on supplemental oxygen are unconscious in about 10 seconds. Masks will drop for the passengers, but they only last 15 minutes max. Even on supplemental oxygen (bottles) the crew could not get in the cockpit as evidenced in the German intentional co-pilot suicide. Only long term oxygen supply is the one for the pilot from the tanks below the flight deck. By the time he dropped the plane to low altitude crossing Malaysian peninsula after the turn west, everyone in the back would already be dead from hypoxia.FrequentFlierPilothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02937618197066767114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8405751930008874982.post-13989503404279521192016-06-09T10:02:32.762-07:002016-06-09T10:02:32.762-07:00I'm a retired Navy Seal..... executing a perso...I'm a retired Navy Seal..... executing a person with mike cord is pretty risky for someone not trained. It's not as easy, quick, or certain as you imply. Fariq's hands, feet and legs are free, he is going to be fighting back until he succumbs. I've never flown a plane but I would think there is a high risk of the flight path being impacted during Fariq's strangulation?JBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09960517115935290899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8405751930008874982.post-84182784809169510102016-06-09T09:41:10.740-07:002016-06-09T09:41:10.740-07:00I'm a retired Navy Seal..... executing a perso...I'm a retired Navy Seal..... executing a person with mike cord is pretty risky for someone not trained. It's not as easy, quick, or certain as you imply. Fariq's hands, feet and legs are free, he is going to be fighting back until he succumbs. I've never flown a plane but I would think there is a high risk of the flight path being impacted during Fariq's strangulation?JBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09960517115935290899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8405751930008874982.post-75194441726608266302016-06-09T06:42:31.615-07:002016-06-09T06:42:31.615-07:00Ed tks for this. I have a few observations to make... Ed tks for this. I have a few observations to make. Clearly people who knew both pilots will have categorically identified who was speaking at any time. For me, one of them puts an "err" between malaysian and 370 every time and the other one doesnt. The "err" is used only in all the airborne calls. If we say the "err" was used by Zaharie then the Captain handled the aircraft on the ground up to and probably including take-off. From then on the F/O was PF and Zaharie handled the radio right up to last call.<br />"send f/o to get tea" ? no way. Demeaning and Its the job of Cabin Crew to do that anyway.<br />"ATC sometimes forgets you". not in a million years, more than their job's worth.<br />"I dont bother to report reaching a flight level". Sorry , you might not but In my experience everyone else did. <br />I assume MAS had Airshow on this aircraft. a 180 degree turn would have registered on it and would surely have caught some passengers' attentions (and crew)?architravehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02001663053208087196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8405751930008874982.post-7785383185107497992016-06-09T01:49:38.657-07:002016-06-09T01:49:38.657-07:00Ed & JB,
It is not necessary for Fariq to be ...Ed & JB,<br /><br />It is not necessary for Fariq to be ordered out of the flight deck. <br /><br />If Fariq was PF as Ed has proposed, Z could have simply said, "I am going to the toilet", and simply got up, saying he was going to put on his coat, and at an opportune moment, with Fariq's eyes on the panel, grab a headset, and strangle him with the lead. <br /><br />Silent, quick, efficient, no one in the cabin would know.<br /><br />Z returns to his seat, and the plan is on.<br /><br />As for the turn-back, it would have been gradual, not the "fighter like" bullshit in the media. <br /><br />There is no reason to suspect that anyone in the cabin, late at night, most people dozing off or even already asleep, not the cabin crew, not even a dead-heading pilot (if there was one, and awake), would "suss" anything was odd, let alone wrong. <br /><br />As for the security officers - please - they are NOT trained for "this type of scenario". They would have been as clueless as anyone else.<br /><br />As for navigation, what is the probability of anyone realizing that they had turned west etc, at night ?<br /><br />I am a trained navigator, and many years ago, was quite used to reading star charts and almanacs and taking sights with a sextant, doing the sight reduction calculations, plot positions, course, speed, the lot, (all pre GPS of course - I am well over 60yo) and quite frankly, I don't think that even "I" would have "noticed" unless (a) I had some "heads up" that something was up, and / or<br />(b) A window seat.<br /><br />Everybody on board knew they were in for 5 hours plus of night flight, in the dark.<br /><br />I doubt that anyone, even me, might have suspected anything at all, until the non arrival of "expected dawn", nearing top of descent into Beijing, around 2230 utc. By then, it was way too late.Ventus45https://www.blogger.com/profile/10703259436988983128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8405751930008874982.post-72534264824491930242016-06-09T00:08:23.000-07:002016-06-09T00:08:23.000-07:00Please explain this..... once Fariq has been order...Please explain this..... once Fariq has been ordered out of the cockpit, how long before he, the rest of the flight crew, and all the passengers realize something is wrong and start going berserk? There were 3 Security Officers on the flight that presumably have been trained for this type of scenario? How are they responding? I'm trying to imagine how this situation could have been sustained for several hours while flying into the SIO? JBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09960517115935290899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8405751930008874982.post-90249324585380084562016-06-08T23:51:26.763-07:002016-06-08T23:51:26.763-07:00Please explain this..... once Fariq has been order...Please explain this..... once Fariq has been ordered out of the cockpit, how long before he, the rest of the flight crew, and all the passengers realize something is wrong and start going berserk? There were 3 Security Officers on the flight that presumably have been trained for this type of scenario? How are they responding? I'm trying to imagine how this situation could have been sustained for several hours while flying into the SIO? JBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09960517115935290899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8405751930008874982.post-69913202828779427262016-06-08T19:49:50.350-07:002016-06-08T19:49:50.350-07:00your explanation seems too convincing. Some people...your explanation seems too convincing. Some people believed it was polically motivated but there been no proper explanations of it until this comment came along Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17736703075706323289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8405751930008874982.post-26413699347383919212016-06-08T19:39:18.209-07:002016-06-08T19:39:18.209-07:00your explanation seems too convincing. Some people...your explanation seems too convincing. Some people believed it was polically motivated but there been no proper explanations of it until this comment came alongJohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17736703075706323289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8405751930008874982.post-81345965403944532642016-06-08T19:36:57.952-07:002016-06-08T19:36:57.952-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17736703075706323289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8405751930008874982.post-62473335565492528782016-06-08T18:08:04.630-07:002016-06-08T18:08:04.630-07:00If Z's motive was political, perhaps the secon...If Z's motive was political, perhaps the second altitude call was a "signal" to "someone", that signified, "I have the plane, the plan is a "go"".<br /><br />I have often wondered about that "mysterious" last phone call Z made in the terminal. When he made that call, everything was "on time and on track" for departure. <br /><br />The call could have been to an accomplice on the ground, probably in Kota, with a scanner, giving him final confirmation of call-sign, flight-plan route to Igari, estimated time of take-off, estimated time at Igari etc. This person was to monitor the frequency for MH-370's radio transmissions. <br /><br />Perhaps the "double maintaining level call" at "about the right time(s), was the signal to that accomplice, that meant, "I have the plane, the plan is a "go"", and thus, it was time for that accomplice to implement the plan to place the political demands on the government. <br /><br />Now, that would take time. Time is critical here. <br /><br />The accomplice would have to use an "untraceable phone" (easily obtained) to place one or more calls to certain people in "government circles", who would then need "time" to "react", i.e. pass it up the food chain, get people out of bed, etc, etc, enough time for Z to fly back to Penang before anyone in government circles "got their act together". <br /><br />Z knew that his flight up the Mallacca Strait would be tracked by Western Hill, and that within an hour or so (say 18:30z) he would be "safely out of reach" north west of Ache, and the government would know he was there. <br /><br />Mexican stand-off. <br /><br />The reason for the SDU reboot, was that he was "expecting a call from an accomplice", from a "known number", indicating the government knew he had the plane. <br /><br />Although there was the first sat call at 18:40z, it was not from the "known number" so he deliberately did not answer it. <br /><br />In accordance with his plan, he flew south, (west of Sumartra) waiting, and waiting, for 'that call" from "his man". It never came.<br /><br />After another hour or so (19:40z), with no call from his man, to confirm the government would "play ball", he knew that the government would not play ball, so "the die was cast", he proceeded with his "Plan B" to oblivion in the SIO.<br /><br />I am pretty sure that Z would have been perfectly prepared for this eventuality, and knowing that the CVR had a two hour recording, I am sure that he will have given a full explanation of his actions and reasons for, and then "pulled the circuit breaker" to preserve that information in the CVR.<br /><br />For this reason, it is absolutely essential, that if the wreckage is ever found, and if the CVR is ever recovered, it is absolutely essential, that the Malaysian government never get their hands on it.Ventus45https://www.blogger.com/profile/10703259436988983128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8405751930008874982.post-40516343095533457942016-06-08T17:13:01.581-07:002016-06-08T17:13:01.581-07:00"For those unfamiliar with the concept, somet..."For those unfamiliar with the concept, sometimes air traffic controllers simply forget about you."<br /><br />Which throws a rather large wrench in what would otherwise be a good sleuth job. Don't get me wrong, the mysterious nature of the ATC recording is definitely something that should be focused on. But here's what I mean. Let's talk about intent.<br /><br />If the intent was to fly the plane into oblivion - literally, take it to its grave, wouldn't you want to be "forgotten" by ATC? Wouldn't you want to go unnoticed? So why not just fly outside of radar but not cross over into another zone where you'd get flagged?<br /><br />As I understand it, there is a section of SIO that is literally "blind" to all countries. Why not go there?<br /><br />Better yet, why go so far north as if you intended to go to your destination but then sharply turn?<br /><br />If the intent is just to mass murder, then why not just fly it to Kazakhstan knowing you'd get shot down?<br /><br />Or why not just fly to Diego Garcia suspecting you'd get shot down by the US?<br /><br />There are too many open "intent" questions for it to be as simple as "pilot had a plan, got homesick, flew to some mysterious spot near Australia" when there are so many other places he could have ditched the plane.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16654781766787043666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8405751930008874982.post-77375662843114883942016-06-08T13:29:34.965-07:002016-06-08T13:29:34.965-07:00Excellent analysis Ed
I totally concur to PENANG f...Excellent analysis Ed<br />I totally concur to PENANG flyby<br />About then our theories part way and whyBo Jangleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04191466591881980853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8405751930008874982.post-3857041428972648432016-06-08T10:01:12.447-07:002016-06-08T10:01:12.447-07:00Thank you for the comment. I hope that the wreckag...Thank you for the comment. I hope that the wreckage is found so we can gain some clues as to what happened.Edward Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14170296426640505173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8405751930008874982.post-13051372183734165742016-06-08T09:59:24.198-07:002016-06-08T09:59:24.198-07:00Wow. That's something I've not considered....Wow. That's something I've not considered. That's an excellent observation!Edward Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14170296426640505173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8405751930008874982.post-6832273390290402112016-06-08T08:12:20.942-07:002016-06-08T08:12:20.942-07:00"It was also the odd second altitude report c..."It was also the odd second altitude report call."<br /><br />I think with these altitude calls Z was very likely fishing for the handoff.NeuroGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15538350058236016497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8405751930008874982.post-53379355885303808562016-06-08T01:15:10.482-07:002016-06-08T01:15:10.482-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14939014938166186548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8405751930008874982.post-49596084619250831942016-06-08T01:14:56.159-07:002016-06-08T01:14:56.159-07:00Or if you've already taken out the f/o, you h...Or if you've already taken out the f/o, you have to do the radios. Maybe the old chloroform on a rag trick, before take off. Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14939014938166186548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8405751930008874982.post-72621130907506367972016-06-08T00:16:57.280-07:002016-06-08T00:16:57.280-07:00What an amazing #MH370 analytics #ZaharieInCockpit...What an amazing #MH370 analytics #ZaharieInCockpitAtFinalMomentsLava Kaflehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18206512841068442070noreply@blogger.com